10-22-2014, 12:37 PM
Senna: My apologies, this is nothing personal, I am not levelling any accusations against you - this isn't your snafu.
I trust your judgement because everyone else here does too. I have only read 3 posts by Mundziel, not counting the chat log, and he doesn't sound very pleasant at all, but we have basically put ourselves on trial here by evidencing the logs. In that log Mundziel didn't say anything that couldn't have been ignored. And now he's called us on it. This thread really should not even exist.
Everyone else: why bring out the log and post it publicly for dissection? It was a presentation of a complete lack of evidence that, imo, does appear to make it look unfair to Mundziel. Again, I'm not levelling any accusations at Senna at all, and without knowing the back-story until now (thanks Senna, you're right, no-one should have to put up with that sort of treatment), all I could say was he should have handled it differently, to reiterate: no-one else on the server knew any of the back-story, and so all they saw was an admin provoking/insulting a player - it doesn't matter if the insult is true or not. But that doesn't matter now because anyone who comes to this forum can also now see it, and so a situation that could have, and should have, been handled privately is now up for public discussion.
Discussion was encouraged merely by leaving the thread going - so I am confused as to why. I would have thought that the idea behind my post was fair, to remind people of the values we set for ourselves, which i think are important, especially if you're going to be publicly addressing them at times like these.
Senna, once again I am sorry for the way you feel you have been treated, but the only real evidence in this particular matter does not damn Mundziel as much as you may want me to feel it has.
I trust your judgement because everyone else here does too. I have only read 3 posts by Mundziel, not counting the chat log, and he doesn't sound very pleasant at all, but we have basically put ourselves on trial here by evidencing the logs. In that log Mundziel didn't say anything that couldn't have been ignored. And now he's called us on it. This thread really should not even exist.
Everyone else: why bring out the log and post it publicly for dissection? It was a presentation of a complete lack of evidence that, imo, does appear to make it look unfair to Mundziel. Again, I'm not levelling any accusations at Senna at all, and without knowing the back-story until now (thanks Senna, you're right, no-one should have to put up with that sort of treatment), all I could say was he should have handled it differently, to reiterate: no-one else on the server knew any of the back-story, and so all they saw was an admin provoking/insulting a player - it doesn't matter if the insult is true or not. But that doesn't matter now because anyone who comes to this forum can also now see it, and so a situation that could have, and should have, been handled privately is now up for public discussion.
Discussion was encouraged merely by leaving the thread going - so I am confused as to why. I would have thought that the idea behind my post was fair, to remind people of the values we set for ourselves, which i think are important, especially if you're going to be publicly addressing them at times like these.
Senna, once again I am sorry for the way you feel you have been treated, but the only real evidence in this particular matter does not damn Mundziel as much as you may want me to feel it has.
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